[2:03 AM]
obnoxious:
	why did you make jessie leave brad
	that prob wasnt a good choice

[2:03 AM]
phen0menal:
	ik but she showed me a lot of shit that he didn't want us to know
	like it was really really bad and it had me surprised

[2:04 AM]
obnoxious:
	he hates you and wants to kill you i had to talk him out of it

[2:05 AM]
phen0menal:
	good, no benefit comes from having an idea like that anyway

[2:05 AM]
obnoxious:
	we known each other for so long why betray him
	pretty messed up

[2:05 AM]
phen0menal:
	ik, but some stuff i realized on my own
	like whenever he asked for money from me i found out he actually used it for alcohol instead of groceries like he had told me

[2:06 AM]
obnoxious:
	was it worth losing him think about it

[2:07 AM]
phen0menal:
	already did, not entirely but i was tired of hearing those two bicker all the time with different stories from both of othem

[2:07 AM]
obnoxious:
	now theres no looking back i cant change his mind

[2:07 AM]
phen0menal:
	ik, he doesn't take no for an answer

[2:07 AM]
obnoxious:
	he feels like you stabbed him in the back
	and ruined his life

[2:07 AM]
phen0menal:
	he did lie to me a lot
	over the years
	like there was only a specific amount of things i was told, but i learned about other things about him through other people like damian or jessie
	which shocked me

[2:09 AM]
obnoxious:
	hes been hurt for years
	i cant even help i try

[2:09 AM]
phen0menal:
	i tried too
	he doesn't want to help himself even, you and i tried
	damian tried too

[2:09 AM]
obnoxious:
	because he feels helpless
	hes put himself into a deep dark spot

[2:10 AM]
phen0menal:
	i knew that, i tried to console him about it many many times over the years
	he never really listened to me

[2:10 AM]
obnoxious:
	pushing someone away whos hurt will not change anything
	it will only make things worse

[2:11 AM]
phen0menal:
	trust me bro, i was aware of that but the same thing happening over and over numerous times got so tiring

[2:11 AM]
obnoxious:
	now i have to try and help him because he lives here and im all he has left
	you really really hurt him
	he wanted me to say it

[2:12 AM]
phen0menal:
	right

[2:12 AM]
obnoxious:
	i hope you guys can one day figure it out

[2:12 AM]
phen0menal:
	for now, no i'm good
	when his character is better, maybe
	but atp, i can't see him trolling people when he's bored
	or getting drunk all the time

[2:13 AM]
obnoxious:
	just know that i cannot change his mind he still says he wants you dead
	so just watch out

[2:14 AM]
phen0menal:
	curious on how that'll make the world a better place
	but we both know how adamant he's always been

[2:14 AM]
obnoxious:
	my gf and i have been talking to him and trying to help
	he keeps saying how much you killed him inside
	damian told him stuff maybe he wasnt supposed to know

[2:15 AM]
phen0menal:
	oh i know, damian played me and him
	even damian talked about wanting brad and jessie to break up so badly
	even wanted her to cheat on him with me but i said no
	not worth it

[2:16 AM]
obnoxious:
	thats whack

[2:17 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah was like "wtf i don't do that bro"
	p sure though
	jessie would talk to brad again at some point but not as he is now

[2:17 AM]
obnoxious:
	she told him no
	so i told him the same

[2:17 AM]
phen0menal:
	bad memory on that prob then

[2:18 AM]
obnoxious:
	he had cops come here and he screamed kill me kill me

[2:18 AM]
phen0menal:
	that's what's fucked dude
	his whole life was like plugged into jessie's existence
	he's told me that if she's gone he'd off himself
	me and damian tried to fuckin tell him to be independent
	never listened to us

[2:18 AM]
obnoxious:
	thats what im afraid off
	him really doing it

[2:19 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah like, the rest of us lose partners all the time and we heal from it
	yeah ig
	i just don't understand how it's so difficult for him to be independant

[2:19 AM]
obnoxious:
	hes my older brother i cant think of wanting him gone
	nah fuck that

[2:20 AM]
phen0menal:
	i get that ye, known the guy forever anyways

[2:20 AM]
obnoxious:
	yesterday he had a huge meltdown
	kept saying how he wants to kill you
	never seen him act like that

[2:21 AM]
phen0menal:
	surprises me even
	not sure how that'll really make anything good happen though
	i wouldn't kill someone over something like that, what's the point

[2:22 AM]
obnoxious:
	i just think doing what you did pushed him over the limit\
	he doesnt know how to take it
	i dont blame you

[2:23 AM]
phen0menal:
	that and it's insane how much of a co-dependency he developed towards jessie

[2:23 AM]
obnoxious:
	losing our dad has made him so so so upset
	hes still mad at it

[2:23 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah that was so shitty, he was great

[2:23 AM]
obnoxious:
	hes changed so much over it
	he said hes never been the same and i believe him
	i didnt really love my dad
	he did tho

[2:24 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah he told me that

[2:25 AM]
obnoxious:
	its seriously put him a bad place

[2:25 AM]
phen0menal:
	sucks we can all relate there and changing after losing someone
	like that

[2:25 AM]
obnoxious:
	i wish he could just move on

[2:26 AM]
phen0menal:
	same, i remember having talks with him about if him and jessie were to split and that he has to move at his own pace

[2:26 AM]
obnoxious:
	i wont let him go to you and hurt you
	i aint gonna let that happen

[2:26 AM]
phen0menal:
	appreciate it bro i owe you

[2:26 AM]
obnoxious:
	i keep saying if you kill him what will it prove

[2:26 AM]
phen0menal:
	exactly
	my mom depends on me
	tf is she gonna do if im gone

[2:27 AM]
obnoxious:
	i said u will go to prison you dont want that
	ill lose you and mom will lose it

[2:27 AM]
phen0menal:
	his response probably was "i dont care"
	like it always has been since 2009

[2:27 AM]
obnoxious:
	no he said i dont want to
	he was just so mad
	you cant blame him i mean you did do something to hurt him but i know he doesnt wanna kill u

[2:28 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah i know that, just not a good way to let the anger out
	cause it carris heavy repercussions
	*carries

[2:29 AM]
obnoxious:
	he feels like you ruined his life

[2:29 AM]
phen0menal:
	i can see it from his pov, i'd feel the same if it was done to me
	i mean it has happened to me before a long time ago but i've healed from it since

[2:30 AM]
obnoxious:
	if there was something i could do or say i would
	idk how to approach it because he gets crazy
	he drinks everyday

[2:31 AM]
phen0menal:
	that's what i didn't like about him
	constantly drinking, reminded me of my dad doing it all the time

[2:31 AM]
obnoxious:
	he said if you and jessie never left him he wouldnt wanna act reckless and drink his liver out

[2:31 AM]
phen0menal:
	he was doing it when we were still around

[2:32 AM]
obnoxious:
	idk something pushed him far i guess

[2:32 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah i guess, he's not well at all
	like he needs to get himself together and stop doing dumb things
	all of us have pretty much told him that

[2:33 AM]
obnoxious:
	my gf is gonna try and help him she is like a counselor

[2:33 AM]
phen0menal:
	hope something good comes out of it, he's horrible at taking advice i'll tell you that
	but honestly, i feel like shit because you and your gf got involved in this
	and i didn't want that to happen

[2:34 AM]
obnoxious:
	he took what she said srs
	he said he feels empty
	and dead inside

[2:34 AM]
phen0menal:
	to be real bro
	him and jessie weren't good for each other
	like i saw that for a long time

[2:35 AM]
obnoxious:
	y
	y do u think

[2:35 AM]
phen0menal:
	they've fought a lot in front of me
	she's shown me some of the stuff he's done/said that he would never tell me
	like he didn't want me to know
	i didn't even want to know myself cause he was that close to me
	but it changed my view on him when some of the things didn't line up with what he would tell me
	then him getting a no contact placed on him made it worse

[2:36 AM]
obnoxious:
	i guess he thought he could use you

[2:36 AM]
phen0menal:
	and that's what made me lose my trust in him

[2:37 AM]
obnoxious:
	yeah thats why i sometimes dont wanna give him money but he does chores around the house
	so idk i feel bad

[2:37 AM]
phen0menal:
	that's kind of a surprise to me
	he used me for alcohol money
	and when i asked him, he never had any to give
	so i kinda put that together and realized
	like why do that

[2:38 AM]
obnoxious:
	he does a lot and i pay him he does recyling every week
	but yesterday he went nuts like i said
	he will go on and be good for a while

[2:39 AM]
phen0menal:
	like a constant loop, right?

[2:39 AM]
obnoxious:
	then something will make him go off again
	before it was i hate this i hate that
	now its i wanna do this i wanna kill him or her or whatever

[2:40 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah he even sent death threat emails to jessie's parents

[2:41 AM]
obnoxious:
	man thats whack

[2:41 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah it is
	he spammed me things too since december
	it got threatening in january out of nowhere

[2:43 AM]
obnoxious:
	well i make sure something happens i worry lots about him
	i cant just kick him out
	he will be homeless

[2:43 AM]
phen0menal:
	i can understand that
	no one wants to be homeless

[2:44 AM]
obnoxious:
	i dont want him to tun on me so i gotta be careful
	turn*
	im gonna try and be more involved in helping him
	anyways hope my gf can help him change '
	we gonna do all we can

[2:45 AM]
phen0menal:
	we'll have to see, hard to convince him to see life as it really is
	keep me updated

[2:46 AM]
obnoxious:
	he just wants jessie thats all he talks about
	i said its not gonna happen '

[2:46 AM]
phen0menal:
	that's just an unhealthy obsession
	he's been stalking her on platforms she's on
	it's really fucked up
	made reddit accounts, multiple fetlife accounts too
	used multiple numbers to spam her
	tried to guess her passwords for certain accounts

[2:48 AM]
obnoxious:
	i tried to say just let it go he said fuck no

[2:48 AM]
phen0menal:
	yeah unhealthy obsession
	like a yandere from an anime dude
	i've tried to even fucking tell him, there's tons of people out there

[2:48 AM]
obnoxious:
	if my gf cant help idk who can
	we will see

[2:49 AM]
phen0menal:
	maybe, him being addicted and obsessed with jessie is a serious problem